Pottery mark query blue circles and Oriental Writing in Red

by Philip
(Birmingham , uk)

Pottery mark query blue circles and Oriental Writing in Red

Pottery mark query blue circles and Oriental Writing in Red

Pottery mark query blue circles and Oriental Writing in Red:- Hi Ive been give these ginger pots ( I think ) which I really love and would like to know a little more about them, I dont think they are of any value. One has some fighting Japanese men on and the other has blue circles on the bottom.The third is slightly larger with no markings on.

A good friend of mine gave them to me as he was having a clear out and was going to throw them away.
They all look hand painted but Im no expert.
Ive photographed as best I can, the lines which look like cracks are reflections from strip lighting above.
If anyone could tell me anything I would be really pleased to hear from them.

Many Thanks

Philip

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Pottery mark query blue circles and Oriental Writing in Red

Hi Philip

You did very well to save these from the garbage. I have pots like this going through the valuation service all the time and they vary in price, but all of them are always worth more than the valuation fee, and one was worth a staggering $1200 USD. I am not saying your are worth anything, as I simply don't know, but they are not to be chucked.

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ginger jars
by: john mcnamara

hello philip the first ginger jar looks like the best almost certain its satsuma,as satsuma early wares had characters fighting ..thats nice, the one in the middle looks chinese,the third one is a copy made in the 60s/70s,of an eary chinese pot,loads of them about decorative value only..,generaly red writing on a pot denotes a later piece ,where as a blue mark is as a gereral rule, is an older piece hope this was helpful in some way ..all the best john.
the small pot with the halmark showing
by: Anonymous

Hi the little blue one is a tea caddie for the man goes on a journey and I think the wife would paint it I have the same I don't think there's many I took it to a auction after buying it from a junk shop for 60p and they said it was a 1980 s replica I never heard so much bull in my life because it looks like a genuine like a real one it might because they thought I robbed my mums special pottery or something
Right pot
by: Roy Rhyne

I was wondering if you found anything on the far right pot. I happen to have the exact same pot just without lid, and was wondering about the blue rings on the bottom. Actually, anything you have heard would be great...Thanks!
Checking the value
by: Richard Harris

I was at the thrift store a couple weeks ago and found the first pot on the left...paid 2.70 for it...it doesnt have a lid,,,i was just wondering if any could tell me the value of this piece....thx
Blue ring pottery NEW
by: Anonymous

I also have the pot on the right, with the lid, which was dropped down the back of the cabinet in my old house - I was so pleased to retrieve it undamaged. However, although it is very nice and with the blue rings appears to be old, since three of us have the exact same pot I don't think it can be very valuable. Very nice though, I'm happy to have a pot like this. I also have a vase with a similar pattern which seems to go with it - also with the blue circles on the base - and wonder if the two together have any added value.
ginger pot with double rings NEW
by: Anonymous

I have the some small pot too, if these are all copies, what are the marks on valuable ones
Double Blue Rings
by: Johnny

Let me begin by saying that I am not an expert, but I am an enthusiastic fellow collector. I find that researching these items, while difficult, is half of the fun.
Now then, the Double Blue Ring mark was originally used during the Kangxi Period, mid to late 1700s. There was an Empress at the time for whom there is also a traditional blue 6- or 4- character mark of the pattern we're all accustomed to seeing. I'm fairly sure these marks were still found within two blue circles most of the time if not always. During her rule a rebellion or war broke out and the opposition took to destroying all wares found to have her mark upon them. To prevent such disrespect and shows of power, she ordered that any ware that was to bear her mark should, instead, bear just the Double Blue Rings. After defeating the opposition, the character mark returned.
Let's fast forward to the Guangzhou Period, late 1800s to very early 1900s. During this period was a resurgence of popularity for porcelain and art works of the Kangxi Period which were only marked with the Double Blue Rings used by the Empress of the time. Her character mark may also have been reused but don't remember if I found out for sure. It wouldn't surprise me if the Double Blue Rings is still in use by dishonest makers due to it's simplicity to copy.
I'm still trying to figure out how to tell the difference reliably myself.
As to the ginger jars themselves, the flowers are prunus blossoms. I have several as well in a couple of different sizes. The marks range from double blue rings, CHINA,and Made in China. One was a legitimate ginger jar and has a modern paper label for ginger to be sold in a market. The company address, ingredients, etc is printed on it but bears the rings on its base. I'd say it's safely from the more recent period.
However, I also have a matching pair of enamel decorated ginger jars with a floral motif on matched wooden stands that bear the rings. Though most likely of the more recent period, I'll eventually have them looked at by an expert in the field.
Hopefully, I've remembered/relayed this information correctly and you've found it useful. I do know quite a bit was from the Gothenburg site. If more information is found, I'd enjoy reading whatever you can add.
Happy hunting,
~Johnny
Identification of Chinese item
by: Angie

Jonny how knowledgeable you are I find it horrendous trying to identify items. Lately it’s been ridiculous for me as most are not marked. I think you have been a great help not only to Phil but to me. Thanks for the time and information. Regards Angie

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